New Jersey Best Lawn Sprinklers and Fencing LLC
About us
NEW JERSEY BEST Lawns, Sprinklers & Fencing has been making homes and commercial properties look their best for over 20 years through a comprehensive array of lawn and landscape services. Since 1989, we have been installing premium Hunter® Irrigation Systems in residential and commercial properties and providing service for all brands of irrigation systems. We know the value of your landscaping and look forward to helping you achieve and maintain your property with the highest quality irrigation system available. Financing available. Additional phone - Central Jersey (732) 367-4408 & South Jersey - (732) 606-1800.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Irrigation, fencing, fertilization & lawn renovations, gutter guard, holiday lighting, landscaping, lawn cutting, lawn sprinklers, night scape lighting, pool services, powerwashing
Amenities
Emergency Services
Yes
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
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Next up, installing new zones in my backyard. They gave me an estimate of $1,444.50. When I called to say I would have the work done the original sales rep wasn't in so the manager sent me the estimate which miraculously jumped to $3,421.43. This included all the basics that I already had in place, like the timer, etc. So I called. Oops, sorry, we made a mistake. They sent the correct contract. The contract for $3,421.43 was itemized down to the screw. It had warranty parts and labor, digital timer, backflow, copper pipes, heads, sprays, rain sensor which written on the contract says "state law" in parenthesis. The contract for $1,444.50 was blank except for the words "Install 3 zones in backyard only. Install Hunter PGP Ultra Rotors".
I had the work done and within a week I noticed one of the new heads was leaking. They came out and said nothing to it, just some adjusting. He went away and it kept leaking. A man came out and told me one of the old valves, to which they connected a new head, was leaking to the tune of $135.89. He wanted the money on the spot. I sent him packing. I disputed the charges and a nice man came out and explained to me that in order to line up all of the zones so they wouldn't cross over each other they used old valves for new zones and reconnected the old zones onto the new valves. Now I'm no irrigation genius but why not put the new valves on the other side of the old valves so they wouldn't have to do that.
So here's my issue. They can't have it both ways. When they say that the old valve caused the new head to leak because the old head was bad, why did I pay to replace seven old heads that were connected to these old valves? Shouldn't they have picked up on the fact that the valve was bad when they saw all those leaking heads during the start up? Though I actually understand the double talk about the zones and heads and valves, this "BIG CORPORATION" should have said enough is enough, we soaked this customer enough for one year, lets cut her a break and honor the original tech's statement not to charge me for the replaced head, ANYTHING. So to date I paid $481.57, $1444.50, and now they want $85.60 and $135.89. To recap, the first charge is start up and replacement of leaking heads, the third charge is for replacement of a replaced head that was nowhere to be found and which I was told on the spot "you won't be charged", the second charge is an installation of three zones, and the fourth charge is to replace an old valve that was used for the new zones though the leaking head was not a "bad head" but due to the valve and the seven leaking heads weren't due to a bad valve, but rather were "bad heads".
PS: I still don't have a rain sensor "by NJ State Law".
This big corporation will never get my business and I will slam them to anyone and everyone I can. They are greedy and most likely dishonest. My original system contained 13 heads over four zones, 4, 3, 3, 3. If I replaced one or two heads every year in the ten years I've been here, and then another seven heads this year, by my count I have replaced all the heads twice in ten years. I think they are told to find "bad heads" at every start up every year. Either that or Hunter should be out of business by now for making nothing but "bad heads."
Once the repair was done, a part of the fence broke again and I saw a difference in the way the fence was installed initially and later fixed. I called them to fix and they claimed that the install was done properly and they would charge me $150 to come out and fix it. I tried convince them but they would not listen. I finally spent two hours and fixed it myself.
I had not come across Angie's
Pre-Sales/SchedulingThe sales and scheduling process was problematic as the company repeatedly couldn't find the quote to submit to schedule the installation. (Salesman was helpful and helpful when he came to measure and determine the quote but after that it was somewhat difficult to get in contact with him to obtain assistance with issues) According to the salesman, it apparently didn't get uploaded and delayed things for several days requiring back and forth phone calls with the sales rep to resolve the issue. (We should have taken this as a sign of things to come.)
InstallationTo start, the crew showed up at 4:45PM to start removal of the old wood fence around the pool (supposed to arrive somewhere around 10-10:30am based on the discussion with the front office, typical during the entire process - repeated calls throughout the day to understand arrival were met with made up times and general excuses day after day). Prior to starting the job, they told my wife they were going to remove the fencing and then come back tomorrow to put up the new fence. When my wife inquired as to how they were going to enure that no one was going to be able to enter the pool area with the fence removed, the installation foreman stated "That's not a problem as we'll be back in the morning." Obviously, he doesn't understand NJ Homeowner Liability laws. My wife told them to call their boss to either come up with a solution or don't bother starting. After having the foreman call into the office, they were told that temp snow fencing would be run out by 7:30PM to allow them to replace the existing fencing. Needless to say, the install team nor we were happy with the timing. They removed the fence and erected the temp fencing by 8:30pm. (Aggravating as we were told it would be a one-day installation, first on the list for the day and we made specific arrangements only to wait around an entire day for them to show up)
The next day the crew didn't show up til 11:30am. (Again, told by the front office team that they were on there way at 8:45am to start the job and were cleaning out the truck.) After the install team finally arrived, the physical install proceeded without issue. At the end of the day, the install was almost complete minus a primary access door that couldn't be installed due to the cement supporting the post not being set. The foreman let us know they would be back tomorrow to complete that final step and to place and level the post caps. In their favor, I did not have significant issue with the price/material quality as it was competitive and the materials were of higher quality and installed securely level/plum. Upon getting home from work and going outside to see the progress, we noticed that all the landscaping rock that was around the perimeter of the yard along with mulch and dirt were raked up against the bottom of both sides of the fence to cover a two inch gap under the fence. Not only did they destroy our landscaping but ripped up my neighbor's yard in the process as it ajoins the fence line abuting the property line. We later found out that they cut through my other neighbor's drain pipe for their pool.
After I made several calls to the company going through various "administrative staff", the owner did contact me to come out to see what had happened and determine how to address the issue. To resolve the landscaping issue, he provided landscaping services and sent a repair technician to replace the piping. The landscaping issue was addressed to our satisfaction but the pipe repair was not properly fixed as it was repaired but not placed properly as it was before so the water from the drain that went down my neighbor's driveway previously now a significant amount drains into my backyard. (I had made myself available to the repair tech and showed him exactly where it should be placed the previous day but when they came back to do the work, it is obvious they wanted it to be done and over with rather than providing the correct fix in this situation.)
PaymentWe had additional problems with the administrative staff regarding the terms of payment. As they offered the six month interest free deal, we had made it clearly known that we were looking to take advantage of the plan. My wife on two occasions after the completion of the installation and resolution of issues, told the staff and each time she was told we'll put the paperwork in the mail to you to complete. Needless to say, the paperwork never arrived for us to complete.
After about a week after the issues were supposedly resolved, my wife received a call late in the afternoon from the company asking that she call regarding the fence. She assumed that the issue was related to payment and was about to call them back later the next day when she saw a $3250 charge from the company against her debit card that was used for the initial down payment. She called to understand what had happened and were told rather nastily that "We had that card and were entirely within our rights to charge the pending amount." When she inquired about the paperwork for 6 months interest free, she was told in again a nasty response "We don't have any record of you calling and requesting that paperwork." I re-contacted the office manager to resolve the issue but she tried to state that I had approved full payment against the card when the owner came out to meet for addressing the issues with the installation. (THAT APPROVAL WAS NEVER GIVEN IN CONVERSATION WITH THE OWNER!!!) We were able to resolve the issue by working out a substitute payment option with the office manager. (Never got the 6 months but I am glad we are no longer engaged with the company) When I pointed out that many of the frustrations we had with the company were due to the office staff (i.e. wrong information, never getting called back after repeated calls, messages never received from direct emails/phone calls, misleading information, general gruff interactions with office staff when making inquiries regarding installation, etc.), I was met with the response "I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY!!"
SummaryAs I said, the physical install is solid but to get to this point cost far more than the installation price. Based on this experience, we will not be looking to employ them for other services we might require.
Issues included:
1. Failed to check the water pressure before installing, which meant the system didn't work. They told me they could get it to work if I installed a special water pressure pump for $600, which I did because I did not know about the problem until after the system was installed, so I would have wasted $2600 without the pump. The installer left that day without showing me anything about the system - where the timer box was located, how to work it, etc.
2. Charged my credit card for more than I authorized. On the day the system was installed but before the pump was installed, I was reluctant to pay for it since it wasn't working. The installer told me I had to put something down, so I authorized them to charge my credit card for half the fee. (I wrote the specific dollar amount to be charged - $1300 - and signed my name with the date as authorization. Legally, this is all they can charge.) The company then charged the full fee to my card. When I called their office to check on this, the person I spoke with argued with me about my right to not pay in full. She was unpleasant and did not refund the difference even though I assured her I would pay once the system was operational.
3. The pump was later installed (and I took yet another vacation day to be home for this). The system still did not work.
4. Although the system did not have pressure to make the sprinkler heads work, it did have a enough pressure to create a small sinkhole in my yard where the installer had cracked an irrigation pipe during the installation, causing it to leak.
5. A third representative came out on another (vacation) day and changed out the sprinkler heads to a ligher version. He also repaired the leak. The system does not work exactly as intended, but if I give each zone more time, I get enough water to the grass and shrubs.
6. Today, the electrical inspector came to close out the permits, and the installation failed inspection because the person who installed the pump used one of those electrical connectors that turns one plug into two to fit all the connections instead of installing
a second outlet as he should have. When I called the office to tell them about this, I was informed that they are not electricians and I would have to take care of it myself. (Had they installed the timer in a different location we could have avoided this problem.) The bigger problem is that the person I spoke with was the same person who gave me a hard time about the credit card overcharge, and again her position was that I was in the wrong. This company appears to lack a customer service orientation.
"We at New Jersey Best strive hard for customer satisfaction. We have over 17,000 customers and we really try to make every customer satisfied. Sometimes no matter what you do some customers can be difficult I can honestly say doing business since 1989 we have never been to court and have great ratings from The BBB, Angie's List, Service Magic, Department of consumer affairs. This shows what type of company we are and how we stand by our product."
Here is breakdown of why I provided the ratings in this review:
OVERALL rating based on:The sales person who also performed the estimate was more than willing to answer questions and was quite responsive. He provided details of the product and how it would be installed and assured me that this would be no more than a 1 day job. After agreeing to the proposed contract, I was forwarded to their main office to be scheduled. From here on out, things are not as positive. So, when I average the upfront experience, the install and hassle in-between, the overall finished look of the job site and ultimately the functionality of the system (which is probably the most important), I came up with a middle of the road "Fair" rating.
PRICE rating based on:I obtained a handful of estimates from installers based on research from both Angie's List and the BBB website. Although every company had slight variations based on proposed zones, number of sprinkler/spray heads, responsibility to mark utilities and responsibility to file permits, all the prices were within $200 to $300 with NJ Lawn falling right in the middle. I opted to go with NJ lawn based on my sales person interaction, "sample" properties I could visit and their proposal included taking care of permits and utility markings. So, I felt the price was good for the product and proposed services in the contract.
Here's a somewhat end to end view of my experience after we OK'd the contract and move onto scheduling the job which give a view on how I arrived at the ratings for QUALITY, RESPONSIVENESS, PUNCTUALITY, and PROFESSIONALISM. Since I interacted with a number of people with different roles, the rating again is an average of the overall experience. The QUALITY rating based on looking at the overall workmanship during install and worksite after install (The system appears to run well at this point, but only time will tell after a season or two.):
1. I was offered a Saturday PM appointment and told due to the earlier job being a "wrap-up" job, the crew would be there before 1 PM and would give me a call before they arrive. Later, in talking to another person to confirm the appointment on the Friday before install, I was told between 1 and 2 PM. On the day of install, I called the office before their closing and was told the crew had a morning job and to not expected them until at least after 2 PM. They arrived 3:45 PM to start and I had received no call ahead of time.
2. There were some inconsistent utility markings as compared to the last time we had markings done which ended up being OK. The issue is I voiced this concern via phone and e-mail to NJ Lawn and received e-mail back that they would call in a mis-mark. On Friday before the install, I called again to say the utility company never came out to check things out but NJ Lawn indicated that they were not aware until I re-read off the e-mail exchange providing specific times and dates of the exchange. The person replied that it must have been someone else until I read the e-mail address which turned out to be her e-mail address.
3. On the day of the install, 1st issue is they didn't have enough copper pipe to run the water line to the exterior of the house. The lead installer asked me "Which day is better for you, Monday or Tuesday?". I went to check my calendar, confirmed with him Monday at which point he told me "You need to call the office because they do all the scheduling." When I e-mailed NJ Lawn with a list of available days I could take off from work, I asked them to call so we could confirm a install completion date. I received an e-mail back saying the crew would return on Thursday and call me on their way to the house. I asked for clarification if it would be AM or PM and received yet another terse response saying "afternoon". On the Thursday of the install, the crew showed up at 10:45 AM and did not call ahead either.
4. 2nd issue with the install, the installer used the plug in the basement for the sump pump. When they left, they unplugged their tools but never plugged in the sump pump. We had 4 inches of rain the next day and luckily I was in the basement when I noticed the water starting to rise. This could have been a pretty bad clean-up if it were left un-attended all day long.
5. Once the sprinkler heads were installed, I was told the install is done and we were about to start the paperwork when the installer told me that they did not have a rain sensor with them which is required by law. The wiring was done, but someone would come out to install the actual rain sensor on Friday or Saturday at the latest and I would not need to be home. By Monday, nothing was installed so I called the office. They were not aware the install was yet again incomplete and scheduled me for the following Thursday and said I did need to be home just in case wiring was wrong, etc. So a "no more than 1 day job" has now spanned 3 separate dates. For this appointment and others, you don't get a firm time frame when calling. Instead, you get a specific day, and then around 6 pm the day before, you get an automated call giving you a 3 hour time frame. My time frame was between 3 to 6 pm the next day even though I thought I conveyed that I could stay home as late as 5 pm on any given day. Once the rep did arrive, turns out the original wiring was wrong so he had to fix the wires at the sprinkler control panel, so turns out it was good that they asked me to be home.
6. While walking the property a few days later, I noticed in at least 2 spots, the poly pipe that feeds the sprinklers were left protruding from the ground or at least at grade. This is no where near the at least 6 inches I was told to avoid any issues with aeration, etc. This would be the 4th time someone would need to come to address the over install. Now we're up to the 4th appointment.
7. Finally, the contract states that NJ Lawn would re-seed disturbed areas. This is was merely throwing some seed on top of the soil and not actually working it into the soil or anything. After the irrigation system ran once or twice, the water put down from the sprinkler heads washed away most of the seed anyway.
Some positive notes though... the install crew and lead were all quite friendly and while they were here, hard working and efficient. The lead took the time to show me the sprinkler heads and how to use the timer in detail which I appreciated.
As I said, nothing here to say this was a disaster since the system is installed and working. But if the people at the office were a bit more professional in both their demeanor and follow-up and the crews would show up on time (or actually call ahead) with all the parts they would need for an install job so a homeowners is not making 3 appointments for a 1-day job, then I'm sure their customers would have a much more positive experience.
At the time this report is being written, I have not yet received the permits from NJ Lawn yet nor have the repairs to the exposed poly pipe been addressed (my appt is next week). If there is a need to update after the inspection or next service call, I will update this review.
"I am writing in response to his complaint. In reviewing his issues I can understand his frustration however, we do make every attempt to complete a job within 1 day however, there are unforeseen circumstances that do arise which are beyond our control. In regards to the incomplete utility markings on the property, we contact New Jersey One Call who notifies all public utilities in the area who in turn come out to mark the property. One he contacted our office we did in fact call in a mismark. The company that marks the property contacted our office to advise that they did in fact mark the property correctly and was unsure of what we were talking about. We advised the technician to contact the homeowner directly so he can explain to them what wasn't marked. It turned out that the property was in fact marked correctly. Further, after every installation our field operations supervisor is schedule to do a quality control inspection. He did do an inspection and conduct a back-flow certification test which did pass. The supervisor at that time corrects any issues on the system and to date, the system is up and running. He was offered an in house financing option wherein he paid a 50% deposit upon completion and is paying off the balance over 6 months which most companies do not offer. Also, our records do indicate that the permit application fee was forwarded to the township however, we have no control over the time frame in which the township returns the permit application to our office. Once the permit is received it is immediately forwarded to the homeowner and they are advised where to call for inspections. We do apologize for any inconvenience he may have had however, we are a fully staffed office that can address any of his needs."
Fabio and his team of installers did a great job of installing the system before my sod was put in. He also showed me how to use the controller and we walked though what area each of the 10 zones control. After the sod was put in, I had them come back to move some heads, change some heads that were overspraying, and raise the control boxes. I had to convince them on the phone to bring some "toro" spray heads, which are much more adjustable than the Hunter spray heads, which they normally use exclusively. The Hunter sprayers were watering way too much of my driveway rather than the planting beds. The first time they came back, they did all of the work except for raising the boxes, as they didn't come prepared with the supplies they needed in order to do that, so I had to call them come back yet again. They also missed a head completely that was buried under the sod and clogged (the flag was there). When they come back for a final check, they need to be a little more thorough and a little less in a hurry to leave. The third time they were back, they did finally raise the control boxes and fixed the rest of the problems, however, I did still find one sprayer today that was buried under the mulch (which was added right after the sod). Each time they came back, they sent a completely different crew, so none of them were that familiar with the initial setup.
Overall, they do a very decent job and their price was very good compared to other quotes I got. I would recommend you do a thorough walk-through of each zone of your system before they are done, especially if you are adding Sod or Mulch after the system is installed.
Update 6/7/11: I just discovered they cut thru one of my drain lines on the property, even though it was well marked out!! It cost me $250 to get it repaired and I'm sending them the bill!!
"THIS IS THE FIRST WE ARE HEARING OF THESE COMPLAINTS. I DID PLACE A CALL TO THE HOMEOWNER AND ARE WAITING FOR A RESPONSE. WE INSTALL WELL OVER 1000 INSTALLS A YEAR AND SERVICE OVER 12,000 CUSTOMERS WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR WORK AND WILL RESOLVE THIS ISSUE WITH THE CUSTOMER ASAP."
"THANK YOU FOR YOU COMMENTS."
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