Shamrock Concrete LLC
About us
Making St.Louis Beautiful, One Job at a Time!! Shamrock Concrete is one of the busiest and most successful concrete company in the St. Louis area. Our reputation and growth can be accredited to excellent service, attention to detail, superior workmanship, and meeting and surpassing our customers demands. WE are a mid- sized family owned concrete company, our family has been in the concrete business for over 70+ years in the St. Louis area. Our commitment to hard work, quality, customer satisfaction, and a passion for what we do has made us St. Louis's First Choice and Best Choice for all your concrete needs!! Licensed and Insured for your protection. We accept credit cards. All work guaranteed in writing. Always FREE, no pressure estimates! Design-Build Staff, Combined experience over 100+ years.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Driveways, Stamped and Colored Concrete., back-filling, basement floors, bobcat work & snow removal. Tear-Out and Replace, fire pits, garage floors, handicap ramps, pads, parking lots, patios, pool decks, porches, r.v. pads, retaining walls, sealing, sidewalks, slabs, steps, street slabs, tennis courts
Amenities
Emergency Services
Yes
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
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"Thank you for your business [Member Name Removed]! We all hope you and your family enjoy your new patio for many years to come!"
"We did pour a driveway in early April 2019. We had perfect weather. Job went as planned, very smooth. Driveway finished out perfectly. Job looked perfect and customers paid. 2 months later i received a call or a email about the job and it having a darker color. Our project manager went to inspect, he said it was still curing. Another email came in about driveway, so i went out to inspect. I too found that concrete was still curing. I also called the redi mix plant, Landvatter. They sent out their quality control engineer. His findings were also in line with Aaron and Is. One thing engineer did mention, after driveway was poured, our area had almost 3 months of rainy weather. He said, this can cause concrete to cure out very slowly. The slower the concrete cures, the darker it is. Which makes total sense when looking at driveway. The finish is perfect on driveway, it is darker in color in some places. In the last 3 months, driveway color has already began to lighten up. It will continue to bleach out. I have spoke with customer on phone several times, we have made several trips to their home, had a engineer come out and discussed matter via email over 10 times. Our position is to allow concrete to cure out. We do not guarantee concretes color or cure time. We can not, as we purchase our materials from another company and because our weather patterns effect the concrete, color and cure ratio. it also says that on the contract that customers signed."
"Thank you for your review and kind words [Member Name Removed]!"
"[Member Name Removed] thank you for taking the time to leave your review of how your project went. All 31 of us here at Shamrock concrete, really appreciate your business!"
"Thanks for the kind words and testimonial [Member Name Removed]!"
They were very professional and delivered a quality product.
They were on time and their foreman was very diligent in insuring
That the job moved along smoothly.
Each step was explained and they worked very hard to give us
A final product that we are very pleased with.
1) According to homeowner measurements, the pad was poured with a slope that was over three times what was discussed with the Shamrock salesperson; provided in the basketball tile company specs and shared with Shamrock; and written in the contract. Shamrock will contest this, but I'll expand further below.
2) According to homeowner measurements, over 60% of the slope occurs in the last 8ft of the slab, so the slope is not gradual at all which makes it very noticeable. If you're going to put a slope on something, even if it's the wrong slope, I would think you'd want it gradual and an equal % of slope across the entire length of the surface.
3) The pad is not "square" meaning the opposing sides are not equal - it is "out-of'-square" by 4" according to homeowner measurements. Not a big deal for a driveway perhaps. But the application of the tiles relied on a "square" pad. So, the initial time the entire tile court was placed down, the tiles went off the pad because the court was not square. The entire court had to be removed and replaced to account for the "non-square" court. The removal and replacement of the tiles took over 12 manhours. The tile company charges $1,995 to install the tiles one time. According to the BBB, Shamrock said, "of course it's not square, a basketball court is supposed to be a rectangle." So, to be clear, I'm not talking about a square shape, but rather opposing sides being equal in a rectangle such that if you measure diagonally, both measurements are equal.
4) Shamrock did not remove all of the sod (organic material) before putting down the sub-base gravel. They poured gravel directly on the sod grass which goes against most reputable concrete company suggestions found online and a homeowner conversation with a civil engineer of removing "all organic material" before applying sub-base.
5) Shamrock did not use a minimum of 4" gravel sub-base as outlined in the tile company specs. In fact, Shamrock used less than 1" of gravel in one corner and poured the concrete DIRECTLY ON DIRT in the Southwest corner of the pad. This part of the pad also happens to be below grade so water collects in the very corner where there is no gravel base.
6) The Homeowner paid $400 extra for wire mesh to be incorporated in the pad. According to best practices, the wire mesh should be placed on 'legs" to ensure the mesh is in the middle of the pad, not on the bottom OR the mesh should be pulled up manually while the pad is being poured. Shamrock admitted "legs' were not used, nor did they pull the mesh up into the pad. They stated the natural "curl" of the mesh would be sufficient.
7) Shamrock punctured the main irrigation line for the sprinkler system with rebar when setting up the forms - despite the fact the homeowner dug up the irrigation line on both sides of the pad to clearly show Shamrock where the irrigation line ran. The homeowner had to by materials and spent several hours fixing the hole in the irrigation line.
8) Shamrock completed the pad in two pours. Unfortunately, the two pads connect in the middle of the court and most of the "seam" is uneven by 1/4-3/4" according to homeowner measurements. The result is the tiles are uneven and noticeable during play.
9) Shamrock attempted to use a "skim coat," to even the seam where the two pads meet on two occasions. Both times, they required the homeowner to remove the basketball tiles; they applied a skim coat; the homeowner had to wait for a day; and then the homeowner had to replace the basketball tiles. This process took 1.5-2 hrs of the homeowner's time each attempt. Shamrock claims the homeowner "approved" the corrections. In reality, it was not possible to approve the corrections until the tiles could be put back in place (the next day) and actually walk/play on the tile court and Shamrock never followed-up to check and see if the "correction" was good/approved or not after the attempted corrections.
10) In addition, Shamrock's "skim coat" fix for the pad seam crumbled to pieces within a few months making the issue worse than it was previous to their "fix" attempts. Shamrock claimed to the BBB that they visited the court and found no issues with the concrete. Of course, pictures tell a different story and Shamrock would have had to remove the plastic tiles to see any of the crumbling seam which they never requested to do.
11) Prior to contract signature, the Shamrock salesperson said the project would begin "within two to two and half weeks." The homeowner decided to go with Shamrock vs. a competitor based on this statement. Shamrock did not start the project until 5 weeks later. Once the date was finally established, Shamrock called the day prior and said they had to move the project out another day. The morning of the "revised" project date, Shamrock called again and said they wouldn't be showing up until 3 hours later than promised. The foreman didn't show up until 2 or 3 hours after his workers.
12) The Shamrock salesperson stated there would be little damage to the yard because they would use ground mats and a small bobcat and buggy to do the work. The salesperson stated the homeowner may just have to seed a little around the perimeter of the pad. In reality, the ground mats "burned" the grass, killing it in places and rather than using a sod cutter to remove the grass, Shamrock used a bobcat to attempt to "cut" the grass to build the forms for the concrete pad. This resulted in huge chunks of dirt and sod being pulled up well past the area for the forms. Shamrock also left the ground mats laying on the ground in the hot sun after they left the project area the first day leaving the mats to "cook" the grass in the late afternoon sun. The lawn damage was far beyond the expecations set by the salesperson. The homeowner had to spend hundreds of dollars for new sod AND 16-20 manhours fixing the damage Shamrock did to the yard.
13) The pier for the basketball goal was positioned incorrectly based on the instructions the homeowner provided to the salesperson and subsequently reviewed both verbally and in writing with the foreman the day the project began. The result is the basketball goal rim is not positioned correctly in relation to the pre-painted lines on the court tiles.
Out of the 13 bullet points listed, a portion of Shamrock's reply will likely focus on the slope issue. Shamrock's owner will claim a 1/4% slope equates to 8" in drop over 30'9". I'm not a civil engineer and I certainly didn't make up the desired "less than 1" slope equates to 1/4% slope over 30' 9". The 1/4% slope equating to less than 1" of slope on the court came from two sources: Shamrocks own salesperson who I discussed the slope with at length and the basketball tile company's written specs which I shared with Shamrock. The basketball tile company has installed thousands of concrete pads for basketball courts and their official specs say :"Pour slab completel
I had my fairly long driveway replaced as it was cracked and crumbling. What I really liked is the estimate I received included everything. The estimate included backfilling the sides of the driveway after it was done and a choice of sealant (spray or roll-on). We had a small problem with the price after the work was done but Ryan worked with me and the problem was resolved to my satisfaction. That is the only reason I gave them a "B" rating on the price. They arrived on time and finished the job in 2 days. My driveway is beautiful!
Now it is April 2014I have several areas where the concrete is popping off leaving craters al over it, some are large, where the seams are they are places that are cracking and crumbling off, my sidewalk cracked not long after being poured and Shamrock is not taking any responsibility for their work. Their stand is "bad weather, that I live on a court and the city aggressively throws salt there, and chert rock" has caused all this. I took care to keep salt off my driveway. So I am now stuck with a driveway that will soon look like my old one. Beware, I would definitely not recommend this company!!!!
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