Joyce Factory Direct of Saint Louis
About us
Since 1955, our parent company, Joyce Manufacturing, has been one of the premier manufacturers and installers of vinyl sunrooms, patio roofs and patio and deck enclosures. Founded by Albert and Gustav Schmidt, Joyce is now a third generation family owned business. We continue to provide affordable sunrooms and windows that remain on the cutting edge of technology and environmental standards.
Business highlights
Services we offer
& Roofing, Decks, Doors, Fencing, Gutters, Siding, Windows
Amenities
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
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Also, since our house is so old, we might have lead paint. With those factors in mind, we really wanted someone who was careful, precise and professional to replace our windows. Joyce was all of those things.
Joyce creates custom windows for every order, so we were comfortable knowing that our unique window sizes wouldn't be a problem. It took about 4-5 weeks from the date of order for the windows to be delivered to the St. Louis location. Once the windows arrived, they promptly scheduled a 2-day window when we would be available for installation. Since we both work, they were flexible in working on the project without us there all day.
Our next door neighbor is a contractor, and he watched the whole process. He said they were some of the best installers he'd ever seen. He referred them to a friend of his in need of new windows.
The windows definitely weren't cheap, but I think they'll pay off in the long term with energy savings and with the joy of having functional windows.
We were told the project would start in 3 ? 4 weeks and
would take no more than 3 to 4 weeks to complete. In all we decided to have Joyce Factory
Direct replace all of our home?s windows (17 of them), two exterior doors with
storm doors, roof, siding, and gutters.
(Logan) come out to the house to take measurements. Logan was only at our house for 20 min and
stated that he had what he needed. We
got a call the next day from Logan in forming us he needed to come back out
because his girlfriend?s kid spilled something all over his measurements. This time Logan came out with someone and was
only at our house for 5 min and said he had what he needed. It was not until August 7th that Shane
notified us that our windows and doors had been ordered.
August 20th, we attempted to contact Joyce for an update on
the schedule for the install so that we could coordinate our work schedules to
have the work done. Messages were left
because no one answered the phone. After
not getting a response, we sent e-mails to the various individuals that Shane
identified as those that we needed to be in contact with. We still did not get any response.
August 26th we still had not received any communication from
Joyce so I contacted Shane again and was told that he would have Matt get back
with us, to which he did the following day.
He apologized for the delay and said that materials were scheduled to
come in either on this week?s truck or perhaps next weeks. He gave me his number for direct contact.
August 27th ? We receive a text message from Shane stating
the front door we ordered in steel is ?no longer available? and so they are
substituting a fiberglass door instead.
September 3rd Colton came to our home to measure the roof
and to get a ?feel for the job ahead of him?.
September 10th ? Colton came to the house early in the
morning to let us know that the dumpster would be delivered and marked where
the dumpster should go. Later that day
the roofing materials showed up.
September 12th ? Colton and his team come to start work on
the roof.
Saturday September 14th ? Colton finished our roof. Also on this day we meet Dave. Dave is the installer for our windows. Dave starts work on replacing our
windows. It turns out that 90% of the
measurements Logan had taken were not correct.
This along with the fact that our house was built in 1956 made for a
difficult install. They completed the
work on September 20th.
September 21st ? Colton returns to the house to start
installing the siding. September 23rd ?
Siding was completed.
September 24th ? We get a message from Matt that the doors
still are not in and that they have put a rush on them.
September 27th ? Gutters are installed. We also get a call from Matt stating that the
doors still are not in but that he is going to travel to Ohio to pick up the
doors himself and do the install on October 2nd.
October 6th ? Dave comes out to install the 2 doors
ordered. Once again incorrect measurements
were taken thus requiring them to modify entry ways to accommodate the doors
ordered. In addition they had to remove
the new siding from around the back doorway in order to install the door
causing even further delay in completing the project. Another issue that arose was with the front
door. We were told by Shane that the
front door came with a peephole. When
the doors arrived, low and behold the front door did not have a peephole. The contract we had did not specify a
peephole because we were told that it was standard on that door. This caused Dave to have to go a purchase a
peephole and install it. Once again
further delaying the project.
October 6th - I go up into the attic to check the roof vent
that we had Joyce install and found that only one side had been cut. We were told that 2in get cut on each side of
the roof so we called Colton and he came out and cut the other side. He reused the shingles that he pulled off. I asked him if this would be an issue and he
assured me that it would not.
October 7th ? Dave returns to attempt to complete the
job. He still needed to install the
storm doors, finish the install of the doors, and do a bit of drywall work that
was still from when he installed and framed two of the windows. Once again issues presented themselves
quickly. The front storm door was to be
a full view door but the screen had a bar through the middle of it. The back storm door was to have a sliding
window in it but did not. Steve the
owner came out and stated that what we got is what was ordered but may have not
been what was discussed with Shane.
After going back and forth with him, he stated he really did not owe us
anything and that if he were to be paid on the ?process? vs the ?final result?
he would never be paid. He however
proposed that he would take some money off of the balance due and we could keep
the doors. Dave installed the front door
but the back door like everything else in this project was ordered in the wrong
size so mis-measured that there was no way for Dave to modify it to work. Even though the contract states payment is
due upon completion of the project, they wanted payment in full and we were
told they would put a rush on the new door.
(It took 7 weeks to get the first order)
I decided to short the payment to make them have some ?skin? in the game
to attempt to insure they would return and install our door.
Nov. 11 2013 - After still not receiving any information
about the "rushed" storm door that we still are waiting to have
installed, we contact Joyce Factory Direct only to be told by Matt that he
checked on it and that the door was just being manufactured. (about 5 weeks since they rushed it).
Nov. 17, 2013 - a small storm came through our area and blew
off the ridge cap shingles. Several
shingles hit our cars damaging them. I
called both Joyce Factory Direct and the installer that originally came out. The installer answered and came out the next
day to do the repair to the roof however once again Joyce has not
responded. In checking with the BBB site
there are now 8 complaints against them and we have just added ours now making
the complaint count 9. I will keep this
posted as to what happens....
Dec. 4 2013 - Joyce Factory Direct did not respond to the
BBB's first attempt to contact them.
(They had until Dec 3rd to respond.)
The BBB has sent them a 2nd note and have given them now until the 18th
to respond. As of this date we still do
not have the storm door installed.
I did learn that if they are in a rush to finish, just tell contractors to come back. They would probably have to in the long run.
Do you wonder what I am waiting for?
They rushed to put the railing on and in their speed they shot the names straight through. That is a safety consideration that must be fixed.
The great thing about this deck is the fact that no wood touches the ground. There are cement pilings in the ground and then metal bracket and then wood. Well there will be when they remove the temporary wooden post from the ground.
I still have hope that they will get the work done. My deck looks great. But service is critical and I am sadly still waiting.
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