Sawhorse Designers & Builders
About us
Sawhorse Designers & Builders, Minnesota remodelers and construction contractors specializing in home improvement, major home remodel and renovations, kitchen remodeling, Bathroom remodeling, basement remodeling, and your green built remodeling projects. Sawhorse provides eco-friendly, green remodeling ideas and services to Minneapolis, MN and surrounding Minnesota cities. DBA - Sawhorse Inc.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Garages, Handyman service, Room additions., Whole house remodeling, individual room remodels
Amenities
Emergency Services
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
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They were good. We're pretty happy people. It was fabulous and great! It was a very good experience.
The contract papers were signed on 12/7 and on 3/22 we still did not have a plan to move forward. So many things went wrong: (huge lessons learned on my part) Overall I am embarrassed I hired this firm.
1) No cost transparency at all. When I signed the papers I was told that the job would cost $43,000. I should have asked right there for a cost break down right there, again my bad for trusting these guys. That is there methodology, hide all costs, trust them.....(again I am embarrassed I used these guys) As the project tried to get to the walk through, it was evident that they just do not listen, and I needed a cost break down to understand how the project grew by 10K so quickly. When I demanded a cost break down, I was told "Well when you buy a Toyota, you really do not ask what the cost of the dashboard is, now do you?"
When I demanded a cost breakdown, and asked how much my cabinets were going to cost me, I was told "well, do you want the cost of the cabinets when built at the factory, when they are delivered to your home and are on the floor, or when they are hung on the wall." When I replied "what cost do you think I want?" SawHorse replied "I don't know" that is when I knew I was done with these clowns.
2) No sense of ownership of the project from SawHorse. Almost all of the correspondence fell on my shoulders to "Keep the project moving forward" For a good six weeks, I was corresponding with a "change order person" via email, and I had never met this person, I was never introduced to him, and this person, as far as I could tell, was not a part of my project from the start.
3) For some reason the removal of my existing floor, and replacement of a new floor was NOT included in the bid, and was left to me to find a contractor, project manage them. When I pushed, Sawhorse said they would get a bid and manage them, but the idea that for some reason, this fell to the customer is beyond ridiculous. When I asked them, they stated they "did not have floor people on staff" Nor do they have electricians, plumbers, painters, ...... again, I am embarrassed I went with these guys.
It finally came to me breaking the contract and walking away. In order to do that I had to sit with the owner and see if I could negotiate, my $5,800 bill that they wanted to charge me for work done to date. Mind you, at this stage, just an unfinished drawing was done, only once was a person in my house and that was to test my paint for lead, and asbestos in my floor. NO workmen were ever in my house.
In talking to the owner to understand why I had to pay $5,000 to walk away I never got any indication he felt Sawhorse had any real responsibility in my dissatisfaction. I ended up paying them the money, for my sanity.
If you want a building firm, that will NOT disclose any costs, will NOT manage the project and will NOT communicate then this place is for you.
My advice if you are looking to use this firm, ask around to your neighbors, and find out if anyone knows these guys, then get your friends and neighbors references, do not go with theirs. (of course their references will say good things about them) As I am getting others to now bid on my kitchen, I have not had ONE firm say anything good about them, and most just say "expensive."
I really wanted this relationship to work, but in the end, I was so frustrated I was willing to pay them (too much) just to walk away.
For me, it was a very expensive lesson, in hiring a firm, and what NOT to do next time.
"First, review states “Work Completed Date: as March 15, 2013”….no construction work was started nor completed on the residence home. The client chose to terminate the contract on March 18th 2013 before any physical construction work started. Second, review states; “Approximate Cost: $5000”. Final costs to client for terminating the contract will be closer to $4200. Third, review states; “Description of Work”; “no wall takes (sic) out, just new cabinets,…” This project completely reoriented the kitchen layout: Sink and refrigerator positioned across the room, DW added, range moving, a main structural bearing wall removed, two detailed cased doorways were to be built. Extensive plumbing, electrical and sheetrock work, along with new; custom cabinets, granite countertops and porcelain tile backsplashes were all part of the scope of work. Client inquired and scheduled an initial design consultation appointment that occurred on October 11, 2012. After numerous concept proposals an accepted concept was reached and a contract was signed on December 7th. This client’s contract proposal was a 12 page and 121 line proposal with specifics of; inclusions, exclusions and “owner direct” items. Sawhorse employees both in contact with client and behind the scene were completing work towards a Client Plan Review meeting. This meeting was held January 25th 2013. During this meeting; working drawings, specs & selections are reviewed that clarify all inclusions and selections made by the owner since contract signing date. On Feb 12th an itemized Change Order was emailed to client of revisions requested. Negotiations on several items commenced. No fewer than 12 email or phone correspondences transpired with client in an effort to clarify and negotiate requested changes. An in office meeting was held on for March 1st, to review price options but more to confirm displeasure and to request contract termination and inquire what would be with held from his down payment. On March 11th designer contacted client via phone and informed of the $5084 retained amount and reasons for it. On March 18th a follow-up meeting was held in Sawhorse’s office to review; his point of view, our point of view, justification of $5084 cost or any possible way to move forward. After discussion, this meeting ended with client formally terminating the contract. Sawhorse has been in the remodeling business for over 35 years. We have had over 2000 very satisfied clients, each unique in their own ways and we have refined our practices to accommodate individual needs. Having a disgruntled client and ultimately losing the project is never good, this has happened so seldom that we don’t have a specific answer or track record of reasons why but, we will learn from it and implement changes that perhaps, could have prevented this choice by the client. We believe we were diligent and thorough in how we presented; original concepts, proposals and options for requested changes and are disappointed in the client’s ultimate decision. Sincerely, Rick Riley staff architect"
The project manager and lead carpenters we worked with were top-notch. The project execution phase took a few months and having people on the project that were enjoyable while in your home made a big difference. They were polite, professional, and caring. I could not have asked for more in a team.
The project timeline went slightly over expectations, but this is where I was most impressed. Again, our home was built in the 1850s and is an old farm house. Back then they did not use perfect lumber and materials that were mass produced. As a result, there were a few surprises for the team. They took each issue in stride and figured out solutions to every issue. Not once were we asked to pay more based on unexpected circumstances.
As for budget, they stayed true to budget. We did have some overages, but that was only because we changed or modified the original plans. The people in the office were great to work with and were very helpful whenever I had a question.
If I were to ever have major renovations done again Sawhorse would be my first call.
"This complaint is missing several critical facts, which we have to question the overall validity of how Angie’s List works – and if Angie’s List is equally fair to both parties… Does a story not sound weighted if some of the information is withheld? The client paid $1,000 for a design retainer to explore possibilities with the project. A first design was completed that included an addition, a main floor remodel and a partial lower level remodel. As usual the design included interior finishes and selections unique to the project, all done by the designer. The client agreed to move forward with the project and the “job book” was given to the client as the first step in continuing the project. The client then rescinded the project after a weekend of thought, but asked that a second design attempt be made, as well as a modification of scope to attempt to lower the price. The second attempt was completed and the project was back on again, only to be rescinded after another weekend of thought. The client then stated that now wasn’t a good time to do the project, due to upcoming educational expenses and that after a bit, they would look at it again. At this point we asked that the job book be returned, as it is part of our build process. After a few months the client contacted us again for another attempt at redesign and lowering costs, which was done. At no time was the client ever asked for more money to continue the process of redesigning and recosting, even though company time and effort is used to do so – we were trying to take care of the client and explore all possibilities. In the end, another company simply offered to do a similar project for less. Due to whatever reason, they were able to offer a lower number up front, which yes, often is made up in change orders along the way. How has any wrong been done here? The client paid for a design retainer, which was followed through with to an extreme. A complaint is filed because our guaranteed price to do a project was less than another company’s bid? This is where we have to ask if this is a logical approach to this entire concept. We encourage anyone to investigate us on the Better Business Bureau, which is an actual policed and monitored entity that strives to get the full story if there ever is an issue or complaint."
"The true and simple facts are as follows: 1. This matter did go through Better Business Bureau arbitration in July of 2009, and the ruling was for Sawhorse. In over 30 years of business we have only had to result to this process a handful of times. 2. The member had actually completed at least one major project with us prior to this – this was not the first time as stated. This was a repeat client. 3. No one from our company lied to anyone. We do not take credit cards unless the charge is less than $5,000. Think of it this way… If we cost and present a project to a client for $50,000, that means $50,000. Credit card companies charge businesses a variety of rates to charge to a consumers account. At 4%, simple math puts the “cost” to us at $2,000 for the same project that we just presented at $50,000. Should the client be charged the additional $2,000 to allow them to get miles on their account? Should we absorb $2,000? Our policy is to only accept charges up to $5,000. 4. The member’s original contract price was based on the removal/disposal of cabinets. He contractually benefited from this savings. Weeks before construction started, inquiries to the member were made if he wanted cabinets or any removed products. And again, days before demolition, member was asked if he made arrangements for any removed products – “no” was the answer. The common industry practice of workmen salvaging removed items has been the norm for decades… even before the current “green” movement. 5. There was an issue with dust escaping a sealed area that was acknowledged by us and dealt with appropriately. We sent professional cleaning crews through the home at three different occasions to deal with this issue in a “white glove” manner. 6. All issues of craftsmanship, fit and finish have been addressed and were addressed in the actual timeline of the project."
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