Paul's Heating & Cooling Inc
About us
Welcome to Paul's Heating & Cooling. We established our company more than three decades ago to provide families with heating and air conditioning solutions to fit their lifestyle and their pocketbook. We continue to provide heating installation and heating repair to homeowners and businesses in La Grange, Westchester, Western Springs, Oak Park and other surrounding areas with the same commitment to quality and value. Additional phone number: 708 222 8888.
Business highlights
Services we offer
Heating & cooling services.
Amenities
Emergency Services
Yes
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Two installers put in the new furnace. Lee was not one of them. It took them 2-3 DAYS to put in the furnace. Within days after the install, I noticed a sulfur-like, acidy and sour smell coming from the pvc exhaust pipes that vent the furnace outside on the side of my house. We called Paul's and asked about this and were told that this was a natural byproduct of the system. Having never had a high efficiency furnace and not being HVAC experts, we took their word for it. (Writing in 2015, we now know from multiple experts that the odor meant that the secondary heat exchanger was bad and that the so-called 96% efficiency furnace that we paid a high premium to have was NOT operating at high efficiency.)
We had Paul's perform annual clean and check service in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014. I will review the clean and check service from 2014 separately. Never in a single service call were we told that the secondary heat exchanger needed replacement. And yet it was in need of replacement from the very beginning.
Over the years we smelled this odor when we were outside on the side of our house or perhaps in the yard. However in Feb of 2015 the smell became much much stronger and was entering the house in windy conditions through the dryer vent and gaps in doors and-or windows. We called Paul's on 2-18-15 and told them about this. Lee (still working for the company) came out. He told us that he did not know what the problem was and needed to call Carrier tech support the next morning. (Writing this three days later, we had another HVAC company out called Aqua and their technician Steve diagnosed the problem within minutes.. He knew that this was a known issue with Carrier HE furnaces and one that had even led to a class action lawsuit.) He took a reading of the CO levels by the furnace and near the exterior exhaust pvc pipes (which Lee never did even though it is a law to check this for public safety. According to Steve, the CO levels outside were "through the roof.")
Here comes the "best" part. When Lee calls the next day, he tells me that the secondary heat exchanger needs to be replaced and that the part is covered by warranty, but the labor will cost up to $1,000. I hit the roof. I could not believe that I spent nearly $6M on a furnace about 5.25 years old and Carrier would not stand behind it! I went on Carrier's facebook page and posted this. Then I decided to call 1800Carrier. I was told by a very helpful senior customer service rep named Jessica (Jess) that the labor WAS covered. The secondary heat exchanger was covered by a 20 year parts and labor warranty. I looked at the brochure that Paul's gave me back in 2009 for my furnace and saw this in writing in the brochure. So, Paul's lied to me to try to get me to spend $1,000 (knowing they could also get money from Carrier) or -- more likely -- buy ANOTHER furnace. (Or they do not know the warranty on products they sell.)
So I call Lee back and tell him what Carrier told me. I hear nothing from him for hours. I call and ask for the owner of Paul's. Apparently Paul is retired. So I am called back by Denise, the manager of Paul's. Get this -- she tells me that what Carrier will pay for the labor to replace this part is not enough money. According to her it was $325. She says they will due it for $670 less the $325. I hit the roof again. I tell them that I had called about this odor within days of the install five years ago and was told it was fine when it wasn't. I told them the warranty labor is covered by Carrier. My wife then posted a BBB complaint and a complaint with the IL Attorney General's office. Paul's is essentially saying "We won't honor the warranty on a furnace we sold you."
"We are willing to talk to the customer, (member name removed), to address his concerns stated in his letter if he would contact our office. None of the concerns he stated were brought to the attention of the office, prior to receiving this letter, we have 4 years of signed invoices, from 3 different service technicians, never mentioning the issue the customer brings up in his letter."
Ok cool. Called Lee back a few days later (we were away at a family wedding and it was a cool weekend so no rush) to come and perform what the coupon said - which was a tune up that at least should have included the following:
Pressures are tested and leaks are diagnosed
Refrigerant level is adjusted if needed, and related refrigerant leak issues are addressed
Loose fittings are tightened
Bearings and other appropriate parts are lubricated
Coils and condensate pans are inspected and cleaned
Ducts are inspected
Thermostat is tested
Upon performing the service, the provider mentioned there was no freon in the unit. We just bought our home and it had sat empty for almost 2 years - so that's understandable I think - I'm not an HVAC repair person so I wouldn't know.
Then he just stopped. He couldn't do any other work apparently without the freon and certainly wasn't going to continue the other work associated with a tune-up - inspecting coils, cleaning, etc. Said he couldn't test for a leak because that would cost more money and wasn't going to supply a pound of freon anyways because...and I quote verbatim and quot;the EPA is on my a.and quot;
I paid $69.95 for someone to come to my house and spray the leaves out of the bottom of the unit with my garden hose.
Update: Provider sent someone back out to further inspect the unit. Everything was explained to me in detail and I now have a better understanding of what is involved with a tune up and the issues surrounding a central air unit. Slow leak vs. fast leak, etc. Having this explained and explored is more helpful and made it worth the $70. It took no more than 10 minutes for the serviceman to try and put some freon in and see if it would even hold. I am satisfied now knowing my options and am grateful to Tom the manager for being so kind to work with me. I have revised my ratings accordingly.
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