
Ever-Clean Gutter System of Ohio LLC
About us
http://www.evercleanguttercincy.com Ever-Clean Clog Free Gutters provides the Most Dependable and Superior Maintenance and Clog Free Gutter System on the Market Today for Residential Homes and Commercial Businesses. Call us today for your FREE estimate! (513) 745-0535.
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Services we offer
with our lifetime guarantee . , "We do not do repairs". We do install regular seamless gutters and downspouts we also install full gutter protection with our patented Ever-Clean Self Cleaning gutter system
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"we do not charge for estimates I would need to know who you paid the twenty dollars to. As a company we have never received money from you."
Herb said if I have the Gutters put on. I would cure my water problems. He was right.
2) The ever clean system is a "Patented Clog-Free, Self- Cleaning Gutter System" as the sales brochure states. It is a two piece gutter that prevents debris from entering the gutters, so cleaning is not required. We were impressed with the design and after Herb walked around the house, measured and explained that his gutter system would be much nicer looking from the street compared to our original open-trough gutters, we signed a contract and paid an initial $200 dollar payment. Our house is a simple cable roof with straight runs of gutter across the front and back of house and garage with only four straight downspouts. No valleys, hips, cables or offsets, etc. Herb indicated it would be 30--60 days until he could get the gutters installed( this was on April 9, 2014). That seemed a bit long, but he explained they were "backed -Up" with work. The gutters were installed on May 23, 2014, or about six weeks from the date of the contract. We did make a call after about a month of signing the contract to inquire where stood as far as his schedule and were told the next week but that did not happen. The installation crew consisted of two men and truck and they went about there work with professionalism and were essentially done in about 4 hours, and moved on to another job in KY that afternoon. At the end of the installation the head installer said he wanted to show me something pointing to the garage gutter. He said they had to drop there gutter down several inches in order to clear the bottom edge of the metal drip strip and that they could not install the top of the new gutters higher on the facia board and immediately below the shingle overhang as I was told. This was on the entire house, not just the garage. He explained that the roofers had improperly installed a self-sticking ice dam protective membrane on top of the metal drip edge such that he could not lift the the drip edge without damaging the roof. I was a little taken back after looking at new gutters across the front and back of the house as it is very noticeable and they definitely were not nice looking compared to the advertising brochures and looked worse than the original gutters because all the drip edge was now exposed with seams,and cutout notches where the original gutter spikes had been. On the original gutters, the drip edge had overlapped into the old open trough gutters such that there was very little gap between the top back edge of the old gutters and top of the facia board below where the shingles overhang. I should point out that our roof was completely replaced with less than a year ago in August 2013 by Feazel roofing. The roof replacement had a building permit issued by Hamilton County. The inspector came during the day of roof replacement and I eventually received a certificate of the roof inspection certified by Hamilton county and accepted by my Home Owner insurance company, USAA. I called Ever-clean a week or so after the installation and asked if Herb could drop by to look at the finished job and for me to express my dissatisfaction in the overall appearance of the new gutters and to see if any thing could be done to make the drip edge look cleaner, especially on the front of the house. Another reason was to ask about a basement water leak I had the week after his gutters were installed following a heavy downpour. As far as the leak is concerned, we determined it was probably from a broken or leaking underground drain PVC pipe and hot related to the gutter install that will require a separate repair. Herb explained again, that there was nothing he could do about the drip edge issue, because the roofers had placed the stick down ice guard membrane on top of the nailed in drip edge on the roof eaves instead of under the metal drip edge. He mentioned something about possibly placing some kind of metal flashing to cover up the seams, but he did not offer to do that, merely suggested that I could do that or I assume hire someone to do that. REALLY? I explained once again, that the roof had been installed, inspected and received a certificate of inspection. Herb was not aware that building permits were now required in Ohio for roof replacements. He said Ky had no such code. I noted that Ky codes and Ohio codes don't always align and KY has lax code requirements compared to Ohio as far as roof repairs,replacements, etc. I did more research on my own and found that the National Roofing contractors Association (NRCA) and the International Residential Code (IRC 2012) for one and two story residences recommends and requires the installation of Drip edge and Ice dam membrane on homes for northern states, including Ohio. I also researched the construction drawings for installation of new roofing and all the drawings clearly show that the metal drip edge is nailed down first to the bare roof sheathing and then the self sticking ice membrane is rolled parallel and along the bottom of the roof eave over the top of the drip edge and up the roof sheathing for about 24 inches for steep pitched roofs and about 36 inchs for flatter pitched roofs. So what I can tell, my roof, including new metal drip edge and ice dam membrane was indeed installed correctly, and IAW current code. Why would one argue that somehow the ice guard membrane should be installed first and then the metal drip edged nailed through it, creating and uneven surface. According to the construction drawings, the metal drip edge must be nailed direct to the flat surface of the wood roofing sheathing. In my experience, building trades are usually quick to point fingers at other trades when things go wrong or won't fit, etc, but this is not valid and does not apply in this situation.
3) The Ever -clean gutter, while a good design to keep the gutters clean, does not seem to be compatible with the drip edge and ice dam membrane that are code requirements for roof replacements in our area. The closed top system allows water but prevents or restricts leaves, etc., to enter the gutter, but the shape/geometry of the closed upper section of the gutter does not accommodate the roof metal drip edge nailed along the roof eave and that typically overlaps and rests along the inside back of open trough gutters. The drip edge is typically not visible when looking at the open trough gutters because most if not all the of the drip strip is against the back inside edge of the gutter and is mostly concealed by the front edge of the gutter. Regardless if you believe they are good, bad or not needed, the metal drip edge and ice dam membrane are now code requirements as noted earlier. They are not simply an optional thing to install or not install and stay within current code.
4) In summary, the exposed drip edge does not affect the functioning of the new ever-clean gutters but it is noticeable from the street and detracts from the overall appearance of the gutter and eave line. I would recommend anyone considering this gutter system, verify ahead of time that the gutters can be installed and will look nice without showing the uneven and jagged edge of the drip edge before committing to the installation. I know, gutters are just gutters, b
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