
Exodus Door & Window
About us
At Exodus Door & Window, we value old world quality & attention to detail, blended with the most current and innovative technologies. This is a marriage of the milleniums that we at Exodus Door & Window endeavor to keep vibrant and dynamic. We at Exodus Door & Window have a responsibility to our clients to choose the highest quality products. Exodus Door & Window has been in business for over 25 years, we have had the opportunity to sift through all of the companies available to us. When we meet with you in our state of the art showroom, or at your home, we will ask many questions so that we can help you make the best decision for your home or office. Additional contact name - Jake Whitman. Award winning. Additional DBA - Larcomb Development. Family owned & operated. Additional email - [email protected].
Business highlights
Services we offer
Residential & commercial entry doors, bow windows, fiberglass, skylights & hardware., sliding patio doors, vinyl replacement, wood
Amenities
Free Estimates
Yes
Accepted Payment Methods
- CreditCard
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My wife and I actually discovered Exodus on Angie's List and after doing some research we decided to go with them due to the many positive reviews. It not a surprise, however, to see that they have recently endured some very poor reviews. We concur with the other negative reviews. It seems Exodus has an MO of just letting things fall through the cracks and then offering up poor excuses as to why. They seem to state 'well, with so many jobs, one is bound to fall through the cracks' and offer no solution. Ultimately, they just go MIA and it takes weeks to get answers. What ethics!
Initially the interaction started smoothly. After contacting Exodus, Scott Larcomb swiftly came to our house to discuss our needs and promptly emailed us an estimate. While Scott was at our place my wife and I kind of felt like his sales pitch was a bit sterile and typical. Scott is a really nice guy but we couldnt help but get the vibe that we were just another job for Exodus. No real guidance or proper customer service. I guess we were just expecting him to share some options, etc.. But instead we got a book and some pictures of nice doors.
We received a bid about 2 days after the meeting and we felt that the price was a little steep. I called Scott to talk to him about it and he willingly cut the budget a bit. However, we were still skeptical about the high cost of purchasing and installing 8 doors. My brother is an architect in NY and he thought I was nuts to pay such a high price. Essentially, we decided to go with them mostly due to the warranty policy (which we will get to later in the review). We also had Exodus paint the doors as well. Almost all of them were split colors on either side. We were charged a premium for that service.
The process of ordering the doors, painting them and receiving the locks and hardware took forever. We understood that it was going to take a while (it took a minute for us to establish all the colors) but the communication was a nightmare. Every step of the way my wife and I just felt nothing but apathy coming from them.
Although the workers were very nice and professional, and the doors looked great, there were snafus throughout the entire installation process. Three of the doors weren't split painted, the wrong screen door was ordered for the front of the house, and the back security doors were the cheapest pieces of crap we had ever seen - you could've cut through them with a butter knife! After they installed one of the back security doors we politely asked them to take it down (we ordered real security doors from another company). After the installation and the corrections were handled (aside from the from front door lock), we were pretty happy with the final result. Upon careful inspection, however, my wife and I discovered that the front door jam wasn't replaced. I thought it was ridiculous that we had two new beautiful doors in the front of our house but the door jam was 40 years old. I called Scott to ask him about it and he said door jams are an extra expense. I was furious. How the h*** am I supposed to know a new door jam isn't included? I wouldnt have had a problem putting money towards a new door jam if he wouldve brought it to my attention when he was at the house providing a bid. This concluded my notion that Scott was NOT thorough at our first meeting. In essence, he wanted to charge us over $750 to replace the jam. We are going with another company called CCC to do it for $460.
Scott was not always accessible to us. He relied on his 2nd in command, Rick, to do most of the trouble shooting. Scott dropped by to check on everything on the second day and we were very happy that Scott came by but he was literally there for 15-20 minutes then split. We never saw him again.
Ultimately, when I spoke to Scott about how unhappy we were with the service he responded by saying "There were a lot of moving parts with this job. Things are going to go wrong". Sorry, but that's not what we were paying for. We expect excellence and proper customer service. We felt we received neither. About two months after the project was complete we discovered that the front door lock was faulty. My wife and I coudn't lock the door knob without two hands and sometimes using pliers. It was definitely dysfunctional. As a matter of fact, right after the lock was installed on day 2 I felt as if the mechanism was broken. I brought it up to all of the workers including Rick and he convinced me that it was my imagination and the lock was working perfectly. Yeah right?
I contacted Scott about the problem on November 4 2014. (Like I was saying earlier, one of the main reasons why I went with Exodus was the warranty policy.) I justified paying the high price of the job with the notion of not having to worry about something if it goes wrong. After constantly trying to contact everyone over at the company, Rick finally got back to me on Dec 5th. He told me the replacement lock would be in within days. On January 26th the lock finally came in (7 weeks later). When the serviceman came to install the new lock he discovered someone ordered the wrong part. Really? I was informed the replacement would be arriving in a week. Ha! Its been a month since that last visit and at this point NO ONE is returning my emails. They have never returned to fix the lock. THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE EVER!!!! I sent Rick and Scott emails on Jan 19th and Feb 12th... NO RESPONSE!
Ultimately, I've decided to buy a brand new lock and eat the cost of the lock I purchased through Exodus. I have completely concluded my business with Exodus.. Yeah, I feel like we got ripped off??. Fair warning. Go elsewhere!
The previous Friday I had confirmed by phone that they would arrive between 7:30 and 8 am. They actually showed up at 8:45, after I had called their office to find out where they were--the office couldn't reach them and had no idea when they might show up. According to them, they were not informed until the morning of the job about this schedule, and couldn?t possibly have met it since they had to pick up the materials from Exodus's shop, which didn?t even open until after 7:00 and is not close by.
I emailed the president, Scott Larcomb, about this the same day but never got a response.
After the workers left I realized how much of a mess they had left behind. I don't think they had any kind of vacuum, they just tried to sweep up their mess into a dustpan, which was clearly inadequate. A job like this absolutely calls for a shopvac IMHO. They also left their dirty fingerprints all over the (white) vinyl window frames and (white) wall, including places too high for me to reach. They left bits of various construction materials in the track of the sliding door. They didn't finish caulking. They left one of the screws attaching the frame sticking out halfway.
I picked this company because of their very good ratings here on Angies, as a result I expected a higher degree of professionalism.
"Dear (member name), We review every completed job and analyse our performance and ways to better our customer services. I apologize for the time involved, but we are so glad the outcome was worth it for you! Thank you for choosing Exodus, and for your patience! We really appreciate it! Angela Larcomb"
The owner of Exodus, Scott, contacted us shortly after the review was posted here and Angie's List. He was courteous, sincere, listened to our feedback, and told us he took the review and shared it internally, to ensure better customer service in the future.
Scott explained that for every 10 good jobs Exodus performed, 1 falls through, and it so happens to be our job, where manufacturer delay, scheduling mix-up, internal mis-communication and faulty parts all comes to a head. While I still attribute this to us being a small job, and therefore less attention was paid, I'm appreciative the professionalism he demonstrated and took the matter seriously.
In the end, we were able to have Scott personally inspect the workmanship, sending paint crew to do the touch-ups where needed for the door, and able to refund us for the faulty / un-needed parts (the door closers). Thanks Scott.
Original review:
I'm not sure where all of the good review came from, but overall we have had pretty lousy service.
Initially it was great - but when they secured the job and received the deposit, things went down hill quickly. The main problem with Exodus was they chopped up the duties so much that when we had problems (scheduling, product defect, installation problem, workmanship, etc), the crew kept pushing responsibilities to the next guy.
Here's the individual review:
The salesperson: we felt his main job was simply pitch the work, but once the deal is complete, he became unresponsive. Though he apologized, the responsive-ness never improved. Also, we thought he'd be the main contact for the job, but we had to get in touch with the scheduling coordinator and installer ourselves to coordinate the job.
The Coordinator: the person we originally dealt with was let go, so we were told. Exodus claims that most of our scheduling issue, missed appointment date, and continuous postponement of the job was due to this person. However, the new coordinator we felt was no better. Since we were thrice-delayed and about a month late for the installation, we felt it'd be nice for them to compensate and bump us up the queue. It's after arguing and complaining to the highest level of the company for us to get a somewhat reasonable new date for installation.
The installers: nice guys, but they had to read and re-read instructions in order to get the door installed, and were having trouble to get the necessary components (door arms, etc) installed properly. I had to check in myself and point out various requirements and issues for them to adjust. In terms of the door arms and door slam issues, these guys are claiming it's due to the strong wind in our neighborhood.
The Supervisor: the most competent of the crew, fairly responsive. But we had to call the company in order for him to come out to inspect the finished work plus inspecting door arms problem (inspection was part of the contract). Once on site, he seems eager to leave. He did a bit of adjustment, and convinced us that the door arms was functioning properly, and once again claims the door slam issue is due to the strong wind in our neighborhood.
The door arms installed by Exodus turned out to be defective. After living with it for a few weeks, we suspect something is indeed wrong with the door arms. We had our trusted locksmith to come by (Advance Lock & Key, on Lincoln Bl - these guys are amazing), and they confirmed it. Instead of playing phone tag with Exodus and being told once again "the doors are functioning properly", the HOA decided to get the new arms from our locksmith, and get the refund for the parts.
Of course, Exodus now claims we did our own modification, so we are not entitled to refund. We have the old door arms, and they can take them back to see for themselves. But they took the cheap way out.
We think it's the fact that we are just a small job for the long distance (we are in West LA), that's the reason we've been treated this way.
"Hey [Member Name], We really appreciate your detailed review and are always trying to improve our customer service at Exodus Door & Window! We sincerely apologize for inconveniences surrounding your door purchase. Our customer's are our top priority and it is our goal to exceed their expectations in any way possible. We take our mission statement very seriously to offer the best overall experience & value in the industry. I would love to talk with you personally about your experience. My name is Scott Larcomb & I am the Owner of Exodus Door & Window. My direct email is [email protected] & our office number is 818-712-0303. Please feel free to contact me as I am always looking for ways we can improve our customer’s experience. Sincerely, Scott Larcomb President/Owner Exodus Door & Window"
"Hey [removed member name]! We are glad to hear your experience with Exodus was a positive one as we are always looking for ways to improve our customer service! I will share this with our installers :) Thanks!"
"Dear Mr. [member name removed], Thank you very much for your comments about our salesman, Bob Feldman! We always are seeking to improve our customer relations, and that he was helpful. I am glad you gave our company an opportunity to help you with your project. I hope you were able to contact us after the other estimate you received, so we may have been able to match, or discount a bit more for you. Thank you, and enjoy your new doors & windows! They truly make a big difference in your home!!! Regards, Angela Larcomb Exodus Door & Window Customer Service Relations"
Could not have asked for better service. All along the way, communication was at its highest level. The doors I ordered had to be special ordered due to the type of wood and finish needed. This was not a problem.
I received more service than I expected, at a level I appreciated. No sub contractors here. These people know what they're doing, which is something I have a great deal of respect for.
I'm almost walking around looking for another door to replace.
I then received a call on 11/4 that the manufacturer encountered a delay and the door would now be there in 4 weeks. My door was not "standard" since the hole for the deadbolt was in a different location than most. Doesn't seem like a manufacturer delay--they should have known that when they measured on three different occasions. The salesperson knew that I was less than pleased, and said he'd speak to the owner. At some point during this fiasco, they did offer to give me a refund, which is comical to me. If you stand behind your work and the products you use, you do everything in your power to get the job done right, not just say "sorry, here's a refund", forcing the customer to start over. I then received an email on 11/5 "offering" to charge me more money to replace my entire door jamb. I declined. If I have an unhappy client, I don't offer to charge them more to fix it. I do what it takes to fix it for no additional charge. So now another countdown begins. 4 more weeks.
On 11/14 I received another email asking if I want to proceed. I was starting to think I was being P***'d. I asked if that meant that they had not been working on manufacturing my door. No response.
On 11/27 the installation manager called to say the door was in, and asked to schedule installation for 11/29. I scheduled the installation once again, and immediately made arrangements for my dog to be out of the house during that time. 5 minutes later, I received another call saying there was another delay. (yes, he did tell me the door was there just 5 minutes before). At this point I'm so livid, that I tell him I couldn't talk and I'd have to call him next week. He emailed me apologizing again, and said that he'd call on tuesday 12/3 to reschedule. 12/3 came and went with no call! I emailed him the afternoon of 12/4. He emailed me on 12/5 asking if I could do it that night. I let him know I would not be available via phone until after 5 (due tothe nature of my work) and that I couldn't be home until after 5:30. He let me know the installer would be at my home between 5:30 and 6 and would call when he was on his way. He called me at 5:25 saying he'd be there in 5 minutes. I told him traffic was bad, and that I wouldn't be there for about 15 minutes. The guy yelled OH MY GOD THEY SAID YOU'D BE THERE AT 5! A bit comical, considering the fact that A) if they told you 5, why are you calling me 25 minutes later? (answer: my time is worth less than yours) and B) I never said 5. I said after 5:30. I got home at 5:40, and nobody was there. 20 minutes go by, and still nobody. I finally sent another email letting the owner and installation manager know. In case you're wondering, they have yet to respond (it's now been 2 days). The installer arrived 20 minutes later, an hour after he said he'd be there in 5 minutes. The 6 panel door was beautiful, and a vast improvement to the ugly flat door that was there. The installation was loud, and my dog was freaking out, but I wanted to get this finished and be done with this nightmare of what should have been a small job. By the time he finished an hour and a half later, the door was crooked with a gap at the bottom and at the top of one side. I'm also unable to deadbolt the door. I gave the installer a portion of the remaining balance in good faith, and wrote on the contract that the balance would be paid when the work was actually done. It's been 2 days, and as stated above, I've yet to receive any further communication
"Hey [member name removed]! We really appreciate your detailed review and are always trying to improve our customer service at Exodus Door & Window! We sincerely apologize for inconveniences surrounding your door purchase. Our customer's are our top priority and it is our goal to exceed their expectations in anyway possible. We have since corrected any/all issues you were experiencing with the door; & the installation was signed off as completed to your satisfaction. We have also credited the final remaining balance of your order as a courtesy for the inconvenience. Furthermore, for any future purchases we would like to offer you an additional 10% discount off any price matched from local competitors. We truly appreciate your business & would like to regain your confidence in our company. We have been open for over 27 years and have done so by making our customers our first priority. Please contact us any time if there is anything we can do to be of assistance in the future. Sincerely, Scott Larcombhttp://business.angieslist.com/Images/Button/btn_submit_Small.gif President/Owner Exodus Door & Window"
"Dear (removed member name), I am very upset by the fact you did not get a reply to an email. I am the owner of the business and personally answer all of the Exodus website emails. I just checked my email and can not find an email from you. If you would call me at my cell phone( 818.521.9833) then I will work with you directly and give you an additional 10% off of your purchase. There is almost nothing I would not do to please you as an Angie's list customer!! Thank you for your honesty!"
Jake gave me a very accurate description of the work and timeline: two weeks to get the doors and one week for painting. They are the only company so far that provided me with an itemized contract. I knew exactly how much I was paying for everything. Most contractors just provide you with the final price.
The doors were installed yesterday and they look great. Mr. Chan worked from 8:302 am to 3:30 pm to install the doors. He was very detailed oriented and ensured that he addressed every obstacle along the way.
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