This was our experience with PAUL Goldman, owner of Patios By B&B. We have hundreds of specialty plants that do not tolerate ANY direct hot sun. We have protected them under 3 PATIO COVER LAYERS: REDWOOD BEAMS, then SHADE CLOTH, then CORRUGATED PLASTIC. The redwood and plastic had deteriorated, and we needed to replace those or to start over with a new patio cover. We contacted PATIOS BY B&B and made an appointment with the owner, Paul. WHAT WE ASKED FOR (March 2019): 1) We were open to any design, BUT the new patio cover MUST give our plants the EQUIVALENT SHADE PROTECTION as our existing 3 LAYERS did. 2) The CONSTRUCTION to BE COMPLETED WITHIN the 2-WEEK CONTRACT ESTIMATE (barring weather delay) so the plants would have the least time in danger from sun exposure during construction; and 3) The finished patio to have gutters sending rain runoff outside the covered areas. Paul presented his plan including a SINGLE LAYER of lattice with 6 INCH spacing, a Lexan cover, and NO shade cloth. That spacing, he said, SHOULD BE enough to protect our shade plants. But, IF more lattice was required, we could always add more. We had never dealt with any of the materials before, so had to trust Paul that his contracted plan would fulfill our needs. Patios By B&B’s final contract was for $40,000, plus the cost of the City Permit and Paul’s fee to obtain it. Construction started at the end of April. We kept having to add more and more lattice NOT included in the Contract, bringing the spacing down from 6 INCHES to 4 INCHES, then, finally, down to 2 INCHES (ALL the ADDED WEEKS and additional expenses kept increasing without resulting in the shade protection we needed). We finally asked Paul “how much more could we have to add?” He THEN CASUALLY RESPONDED that he had a previous customer who ALSO had “shade plant requirements” for HER patio Cover. She INSISTED on ½ INCH SPACING between HER lattices to protect her shade plants. IF HE HAD TOLD US THIS AT THE BEGINNING, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE SIGNED THE CONTRACT for THAT DESIGN, which was clearly unrealistic, not only based on his PAST experience, but especially since he knew that our ORIGINAL patio cover DID NEED an entire SHADE CLOTH LAYER to protect the plants. His only comment when we were so astonished that he had NOT told us about his previous customer’s shade requirements lattice spacing from the beginning was, “I’m sorry I told you that.” WHAT WE GOT 6 WEEKS LATER (June 2019): Burned Plants and Still Not Enough Shade/Heat Protection. The weather was now reaching 90s. Some of our plants were getting burned leaves due to lack of protection during these now 4 WEEKS OVER the ORIGINAL estimated time (only one morning of rain delay). The now “FINISHED cover” (according to Paul) also created a hothouse effect allowing not only too much light, but also too much heat even with the two rotating fans we had installed. Before the work started, we reviewed with Paul exactly where we needed ALL 3 gutters placed to to keep the patio area dry. When I told Paul that we should amend the Contract to make sure that everything we agreed upon was in it, Paul repeatedly told us then, and during the first 4 weeks when we also encountered other problems (not detailed here), “Trust me. I will make sure you are happy.” BUT, when his gutter man came out 4 weeks later, Paul said he didn’t know we needed a gutter for the back of the patio (where runoff would have gone downslope through the entire patio), and that would be an additional $1190. On June 21, we contacted Paul, REPEATING to him that the plants were STILL BURNING since his design STILL failed to provide the shade requirement we had insisted on. We, AGAIN, told him that we needed shade cloth added as soon as possible. 3 WEEKS LATER, PAUL STILL HAD NOT RESPONDED. We contacted him again. He came on July 15. We showed him continuing leaf burning and stressed the need for a shade cloth layer. Paul finally agreed to install the shade cloth at his expense, starting the next Monday, but ONLY if we made the FINAL, FULL payment THAT DAY. This was now THOUSANDS of DOLLARS OVER the contract amount to include all the additional lattice - and the gutter we previously were told was included. (There was also an additional $1,000 for 2 fan upgrades that we agreed on after the contract.) We paid the balance in full on July 15. On July 19, he brought 3 shade cloth samples, but NOW asked that WE pay for the MATERIALS and THEN told us that the work could not start for at least 10 MORE days. We could not wait any longer, so WE spent the next week putting up new shade cloth ourselves. The pictures show a few areas of the “FINISHED” cover with almost FULL sun coming through, vs. the protection given by the shade cloth we temporarily had to install ourselves in the worst burned leaves areas. Also samples of some leaves burned during and after construction. We are now installing the shade cloth for the entire patio. UPDATE AS OF 8/6/19, responding to Jeff's response. "Thank you for taking the time to respond to our review. However, several of your comments were incorrect. We did NOT 'reject' a fully covered patio at the beginning. And, after 3 months (instead of the 2 WEEK CONTRACT estimate) when the patio cover STILL did not provide the shading we needed, Paul's ONLY offer to fix the problem was for us to wait 10 MORE days. We couldn't let the plants continue to burn any longer, so we spent an entire week putting shade cloth up ourselves. In addition, Paul's behavior had become so hostile that we just couldn't deal with him any longer. You told us that Paul is retiring, which is for the best for your company. Unfortunately, that didn't help us. UPDATE AS OF 02/26/2020, Our nightmare kept continuing with Patios By B&B. This is an update. We signed the contract with the owner, Paul, ONLY because he promised us he would fulfill our 2 MAIN REQUIREMENTS when he had our new patio cover built for the +$40,000. NEITHER of those 2 requirements were even remotely fulfilled. 1) The patio would provide enough shading for our hundreds of specialty potted plants. The end results was not even close so we had to hand-place shade cloth in-between the lattice (see review); and 2) The new patio cover WOULD BE RAINPROOF under ALL the covered areas, and especially important was rain proofing the area just outside our bedroom (the wall where all the electrical power and timers for out outdoor patios and lighting are). We had a very dry period for 6+ months after the new patio cover was finished in the beginning of summer (Jordan insisted otherwise but we rechecked all the weather data for our area for that period). The first date where there was substantially heavy rain was Christmas day, 2019. After only a short time, there was a waterfall coming down over their installed gutter, not only pouring down on all that patio area, but, even worse splashing heavily over the electrical outlets on the wall! (see attached pictures) During the holidays and first part of January, we were also dealing with personal health problems, which were taking most of our attention. We then contacted Jordan, who is also active with the Company. He said he would contact the gutter guy who installed the gutter guy (Rick Spink, Above and Beyond Rain Gutters). It took 3 weeks for Rick to come out and inspect. He said he COULD put in a LARGER gutter, which would at least help minimize any overflow. When we had not heard from Jordan after that, his response to our follow-up email was “There is not a gutter system on the planet that can do what you’re looking for and a “rainproof” patio is an unreasonable expectation without a wall enclosure. “. I responded saying, “then why did Paul promise us something that you now say is clearly impossible!?” Jordan’s response to that was “ If you agree to remove your Yelp review and agree to never write anything online about Patios By B&B again, under threat of libel, than we will pay for the reinstallation of your rain gutter. “ We were so appalled that, instead of even ANY APOLOGIES for Paul completely misrepresenting what Patio’s by B&B would do, instead Jordan threated us with a libel suit if we didn’t remove our reviews of this awful experience. We told him we could NOT accept those conditions and we would handle it ourselves. WHAT WE FOUND OUT LATER WAS THE GUTTER (regardless of its size) was INSTALLED IMPROPERLY! Above and Beyond Rain Gutters had installed the gutter exactly following our roof line (which, like many other houses, is NOT LEVEL) so, instead of the water flowing AWAY from the house to the downspout, the gutter slanted so the water flowed into the corner near our bedroom!. So THAT was one of the main reasons we were flooded with water in the wrong area. So, this second major problem costed us an extra $670 to hire a different gutter company ourselves (Bresnahan – great job, see that review) who explained the problem, tore down the unworkable gutter, replaced it with a larger one and, most importantly, sloped the new gutter AWAY from the house to the downspout)